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Frances Bacon's avatar

Wow! Fascinating, provocative conversation. Thank you, both!

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Hey Francis

Glad to know the discussion was inspiring. Thank you!

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Seth Werkheiser's avatar

Ahhhh! So glad this came together from our chat!!!!

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

Thanks for helping it to coalesce!

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Marie P.'s avatar

This surprised me. I went from WTF to awe related to yours and Caleb's back and forth on Mars. So many great insights. Thank you!

(And you're both adorable!)

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Thank you, Marie. I think a lot of folks were surprised by the notion of heavy metal astrology. It certainly was a revelation to me to discuss Caleb's philosophy.

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

You're so kind. I'm glad this was meaningful for you!

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Patrick Brennan's avatar

Can't believe that you guys didn't get into Musk's driving ambitions to occupy Mars via SpaceX .

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

That would have been great! Yes, Patrick. I try to keep these vids to an hour maximum...so different topics were left out of the mix.

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

You make a good point. Musk's own obsession with Mars would have made a fun tangent

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Pamela Ryan's avatar

I am not usually able to sit and listen to an entire hours worth of anything but this had me totally captivated. Thank you! And when you shared your current inquiry into northern versus southern hemispheres I actually gasped. I teach astrology from a place not far from Cape Town and I keep having to tell my class to bear with me while I explicate the seasons from a northern perspective. It’s becoming a challenge for me so I’m going to follow your thinking with huge attention.

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Hi Pamela

That is great to hear. And I agree, some of the astro videos I've seen posted lately have been beyond my ability to endure (I noted one on YouTube today that was 6.5 hours long -- discussing Mars retrograde. Why???? LOL!)

And, yes, stay tuned. As I flesh out David Roell's theory more, I think you'll find my reworking of the hemispheres fascinating.

Thank you for your comment.

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Skyecatcher's avatar

Very interesting discussion, especially the astrology and the music (for me anyway lol), thanks for this!

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Ah, yes... that would set your astro/DJ tuning fork vibrating!

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Lea Moonlight🐉🌌☯️✨🪐's avatar

Very interesting and thought provoking. Thank you to you both, I'm looking forward to part 2. 🌌✨♏

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Thank you, Lea. Yes, part two is a fun Martian ride through the signs. I saw many of the Mars signs in totally new ways.

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Geoff Krueger's avatar

Pulsing With The Earth

Wildness Preservation

Fallen Lamb Earth’s Gift

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Geoff— you need to flesh out your poetry more.

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Geoff Krueger's avatar

It’s haiku based on Metallica’s song Of Wolf and Man from their Black album

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Frederick Woodruff's avatar

Oh! I bet Caleb would be familiar with that. I'm not a heavy metal listener.

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

An excellent song and an excellent album

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Georgene Shelton's avatar

Noting with interest the idea of Mars' sharp cutting action, with which we can carve out, sculpt ideas. The Magician in Tarot, with all of the suits on the table - it seems the biggest cutting table of them all. As a designer/maker the wielding of shears, cutting cloth, is an act of will in service of an idea. I will have to think upon this aspect of Mars. Thanks~

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

Yes, that's an excellent point that a knife (Mars) is one of the most important tools in a magician's arsenal. The textile arts are also a domain that employs a lot of Martial tools (needles, shears, scissors, etc)

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Alison Marie Dale's avatar

Ooo love the idea of the Mars/Saturn trine being a sulfuric hot spring / cold plunge. (During the end of Mars Rx this year I was in Costa Rica directly on my Mars astrocartography line… I not only went to a sulfuric hot spring but found myself structuring my days between overheating and finding relief in the water!)

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V Pendragon's avatar

Quite interesting... was hoping you'd hit on Mars and the nodes as my Mars is conjunct the south node (and my chart is a hot mess to begin with! LOL)

(((HUGS))) and thanks!

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Ana Z's avatar

First off, did you text each other and say "Hey, what are you gonna wear for the interview? "And then decided on red flannel shirts? Fortunately for that festive polkadot scarf I was able to tell you apart. I loved this talk. I am also a Mars in Pisces and like you, Frederick, I go into warrior stance when I see injustice of any kind. Been like that since I was a kid. So much great info here.. this conversation helped me in more ways that I can express. Thank you both.

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Caleb J McCoy's avatar

The matching red flannel shirts was a hilarious coincidence, but perhaps points to both of us having red hot Mars on our minds

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